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Proposed Cheshire boundary sign A57 Glossop to Mottram River Etherow bridge

Proposed Cheshire boundary sign A57 Glossop to Mottram River Etherow bridge

Proposed Cheshire Ancient County sign Mersey Tunnel Wallasey

Proposed Cheshire Ancient County sign Mersey Tunnel Wallasey

Visualisation of proposed Cheshire ancient county sign B5095 E Didsbury/Cheadle

Visualisation of proposed Cheshire ancient county sign B5095 E Didsbury/Cheadle

Visualisation of amended Cheshire County Council sign A5102 Poynton

Visualisation of amended Cheshire County Council sign A5102 Poynton

NW England M56 Cheshire administrative county sign

NW England M56 Cheshire administrative county sign



Historic Cheshire - Why we need to recognise Cheshire in its original boundaries

Cheshire is a county in north west England. But all is not as it seems. In 1974, government legislation created new so-called 'counties' which displaced and obscured the old ones. The map of Cheshire appeared to shrink. And since I first wrote this article, the 'new' Cheshire has been split into two. A revised article is in preparation. In the meantime read my original article.

The most important message of my 'Campaign for Cheshire' is as follows:

There are two Cheshires: Cheshire Number One: The ancient county of Cheshire whose boundaries were established before the Middle Ages. Its northern boundary stretches from the Wirral to deep into the Pennines.
Cheshire Number Two: The present Cheshire County Council area. The boundaries were redrawn in 1974 excluding a sizeable section the original or 'true' county. The southern boundary is unchanged from the ancient county.

That's it. Any questions?

Why did they move the boundaries in 1974?

They didn't move the boundaries, they imposed new boundaries onto the old map, partially obscuring it. Changes were necessary for complex local government reasons.

Do you want to go back to the old Cheshire?

No, it's not about 'going back' it's about recognising that there are two Cheshires, old and new, both co-existing with each other. The new Cheshire, i.e. the present Cheshire County Council is the successor to the old one.

Why is this so important?

Because the counties are an essential part of local identity. You cannot rewrite a thousand years of history. You cannot in 1974 change the map of a county whose boundaries were already established well before the Middle Ages, just as you cannot move the site of the Battle of Hastings to another location for administrative convenience.

What is the goal of your campaign?

To make people aware of the old and new counties, flagging up where the boundaries run. It's just a lesson in local history and geography, an information campaign aimed at informing people and making them curious. I want to put right the disinformation which has been spread since the 1970s. It's a very interesting topic that can give people a whole new slant on their local area.

How will you do this?

Through articles like this one, maybe leaflets, also maps - I'm working on animated maps which make it clear what happened in 1974. No maps like that exist at the moment. I'd also like to see new maps used in tourism and education, showing the old and new boundaries. And most importantly signs. I advocate new signs to mark the boundary of the ancient county from the Wirral to the Pennines and I'm producing visualisations of how the signs will look.

How will the signs look?

The new signs marking the ancient county will be tourist style signs on a brown background, with the Cheshire wheat sheaves symbol on one side, and a map of the county on the other. The wording will be 'Cheshire' with the words 'ancient county' in smaller writing underneath. For clarification, I advocate that existing County Council signs should have the words 'county council area' added underneath the word 'Cheshire'. That's the best way to make things clear, and will also make people aware of the existence of the county council and the important services they provide.

How will you do the visualisations?

I am going to design my standard sign and paste it into photographs taken at major roads along the northern boundary. For instance the A557 at Runcorn Bridge, the A49 in the centre of Warrington, the A56 in Sale, the A5103 at Princess Parkway in Manchester, the A5145 between East Didsbury and Cheadle, the A6 in the centre of Stockport, the bridges over the River Tame in Tameside, and on the A628 in the Pennines.

Do you think people feel strongly about this issue?

No, it's an invisible issue for most people. They are more interested in who is going to win the cup final, or whether there are one or two rubbish collections per week.However, if they discovered their house might be worth an extra 10,000 pounds if it were recognised to be in Cheshire, then they might take notice.

Do local councils need to do anything?

I'm not sure. But the most important thing is that they should understand the concept of the co-existence of the two Cheshires - the ancient county and the current county council area. They should get over their territorial thinking and realise the concept of overlapping spheres of influence. The ancient county has just as much a right to be recognised as the newer structures. After all, it has been there for over a thousand years, before William the Conqueror was on the throne, they've only been there since 1974, when the Bay City Rollers had four number one hits.

Why do you feel so strongly about this?

I suppose because I was born in Stockport, Cheshire in 1958 and grew up there, and I am proud of that. Cheshire is my home county and means a lot to me. But from 1974 onwards people started telling me my birthplace was no longer in Cheshire. It had 'moved' into Greater Manchester'. And then Greater Manchester Council was abolished in 1986 and the county itself in 1993, leaving things in a state of limbo. Maybe it's because I'm from an Irish background that I have a greater respect for history than most people, and an acute awareness of borders. It seems it takes a kid of Irish parents to persuade the English to get their local history back in synch!

More information, maps and visualisations of signs will appear shortly.

Visit my website Cheshire Dreams for an alternative, pictorial view of Cheshire.

For comprehensive information about the county issue, and why it is so important, visit the Association of British Counties website www.abcounties.co.uk. If you're not sure which town is in which county, their Gazeteer will help.

In the adjoining county of Lancashire, there is a campaign group Friends of Real Lancashire, who have been active for many years. For more information and to see some very informative maps, visit their website www.forl.co.uk.

2007-05-16


Read further articles

Excellent Manchester books: The Stirring of the Birds and Nancy by William Kenneth Jones.
Rebuilding Manchester - illustrated book by Euan Kellie including 105 of my photos.
Manchester Central Library refurbishment: My opinion.
Library Walk Manchester: A history and appreciation with photographs by Aidan O'Rourke.
Manchester Central Station via Cheadle Heath to Hazel Grove - An imaginary train journey.
Islington Wharf Manchester: striking apartment tower with great views.

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