Holland Street....

[MrsA]

I apologise if this has been answered elsewhere i have checked and found nothing; but I am wondering what happened to the houses on Holland Street in Pendleton... my great grandmother lived at number 9. I have tried viewing the area on google earth and there is nothing there. Can anybody inform me of how the area was? I am very interested to find out where my grandma and her mother and family came from and what kind of lives they led. There were in Pendleton definitely 1954 and possible some years before that.
Many thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Mrs A

[Henry Mantell]

My main memory of Holland Street was the Public Wash House which I think was built in the mid to late fifties. It was unusual as not many towns or cities had a public wash house and I remember it was quite an experience. Council owned it had banks of washing machines, spin driers and large ironing machines and presses. Very female of course and most women were accustomed to high noise levels in factories so communicated silently by lip reading, as Les Dawson/ Roy Barraclough, Cissie and Ada. The noise levels were high!
I don't know what happened to houses in Holland Street but the whole area seemed to have been demolished and urban planned to be a mix of light industrial and some housing. I imagine this was the fate of the houses you are interested in. I can't recall the numbering which end was Number 9?
My 1960's memory was of terraced housing with outside loos built to house factory workers ;I think more than one pub and of course mills and the Wash House, one of the biggest buildings there. In the area most terraces lacked the ability to accommodate washing machines although I think that the yards had a shed type area which pre wash house would have been called wash houses and housed a mangle for squeezing water from clothes on wash days.
The Municipal wash house clearly provided laundry facilities for the whole area because terraced housing post war (Pendleton had many bomb sites) clearly lacked facilities needed for laundry in terraces.
Generally that side of Pendleton had some of the more basic terraces which by the 1950's were probably reaching the end of their lives and the Council was rehousing to high rise in the 1960's.
The Local History Library at Peel Park will probably hold some information about redevelopment of Holland Street. I imagine the Wash House has long since gone.

[Mamucium Son]

Question really, not an answer, but, do Salford council not have an online picture archive similar to the Manchester one, where you can select a picture by street? If they do, I'd love to see it. I spent a few years in Salford myself.

[aidanorourke]

There doesn't appear to be an online image collection like the one in Manchester. To see old photos of Salford it's necessary to physically go along in person to the Local History Library in the Art Gallery building, next to Salford University, and have a browse through the archive. The Local History Library page is at the URL below:

Visit Salford Local History Library - Salford City Council

I intend to call in there soon. I've been in Stockport and Trafford local history libraries. They have a great resource but it isn't always available online.

[Henry Mantell]

In answer to my query last year about online photo archive. I have to rely on friends to visit for me or occasionally they will provide information by post. They do have an online forum though which is informative and well worth posting on.

[MrsA]

Many thanks for all your replies, i will look into the salford council website, i should be able to find out there more about my family as I have found out my great grandfather used to be a bus driver (presumably for salford) but the family name is rather common being 'Crook'...
Once again thank you for all your help!

MrsA

[selmer50]

Originally Posted by MrsA

I apologise if this has been answered elsewhere i have checked and found nothing; but I am wondering what happened to the houses on Holland Street in Pendleton... my great grandmother lived at number 9. I have tried viewing the area on google earth and there is nothing there. Can anybody inform me of how the area was? I am very interested to find out where my grandma and her mother and family came from and what kind of lives they led. There were in Pendleton definitely 1954 and possible some years before that.
Many thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Mrs A

In the mid 60's I used to walk to work every day to Whit Lane.
I came down Laundry Street, over Cock Robin footbridge (over the railway & canal) onto Holland Street. Immediately after the footbridge, on the left, was a factory. On the corner of the first block past the factory was a pub called the Beehive. Farther down on the opposite side was a chipshop where I often got my dinner. As I remember, all the houses were down from Orchard Street, which crossed Holland Street, onwards towards Whit Lane.
When the area was redeveloped, the terraced houses were demolished and the layout of most of the streets/roads was changed.
Holland Street still exists between Cock Robin bridge and where Orchard street was, now Langley Road and continues as Holland Walk.

[aidanorourke]

I know that bridge! I once photographed it in black and white. It is still there and I'll return and photograph it again. It is virtually unchanged from the pre-development era. Try copying and pasting the address below.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=GB|Salford%20Manchester#t=l&map=53.49675,-2.28777|18|4&loc=GB:53.46968:-2.28525:14|Salford%20Manchester|Express%20by%20Hol iday%20Inn%20Manchester%20Salford%20Quay

Also interesting to note, in 'A Taste of Honey' the new flat that Jo (Rita Tushingham) and her mother (Dora Bryan whom I met not long ago), moved to from Stockport, is very close to there. The location can be seen in the early part of the film after they have got off the bus.

Today this area has changed completely, though bits of the old landscape remain, including the bridge and surroundings.

Thanks for this info, always fascinating to make discoveries like this!

[Henry Mantell]

It wasn't a million miles from there that a teenage Xaverian bought an ice cream from Stan Ogden's ice cream van in an episode of Coronation Street, the first of a number of onscreen appearances as an "extra"The script called for said teenager to be cheeky but grateful, but no actual lines were given, Bernard Youens was great at ad libbing in his character and only two takes were necessary, the first had a technical problem with the camera.
I remember walking my dog over Cock Robin bridge. I can't quite recall the name of that factory though.
From Google earth the Charlestown/Pendleton area looks very different in road layout from 60's Pendleton. Trying to remember the Beehive too!Come to think I can't remember the name of the pub on juction of Whit lane, Douglas Green, Gerald Road either. I sold enough newspapers there during the annual holiday closures but I'm afraid time has taken its toll!
Whit lane is a shadow of its former self, it used to continue right along to Universal Metal Products factory.

[aidanorourke]

Today it was a beautifully dismal and drizzly day, ideal for moody black and white photos. So I returned to Cock Robin Bridge and the nearby Cobden St and took some photos, attached below.

The Beehive Pub is still there and apparently doing very well indeed. I will photograph that on a sunny day.