thanks for the pictures of Boggart
Hole Clough I enjoyed them and have taken a copy to show the
family. I remember being told the story of the Boggarts. What a
pity this great park is being neglected.
me it is better than New York's Central Park because it has all
the hills and valleys and did have such a display of plant life
and flowers. Did you know that just above a wooden bridge over one
of the streams there was a bandstand and on Sundays one could sit
and listen to the music. It isalso connected to the area known as
Lewis's rec. the flat area around Blackley Library. There are two
very steep paths from there going into the Clough, one known as
course I am writing all this from memories. It is perhaps better
to remember it the way it was. Again. many, many thanks. Eveline
Sommerhalder 1000 King St W Suite 406 Kingston, Ontario Canada K7M
like all Manchester's parks, it deteriorated during the 1970's and
1980's, but Boggart Hole Clough is already being repaired and improved
for the Commonwealth Games. But maybe it will always be best as
it looks in our memories of earlier days. More pictures of
Boggart Hole Clough to come soon.
Old Mate. Thought you piece on Ancoats exceptional, brought back
untold memories. One thing though, what ever happend to Ardwick
"Out Patients Hospital" That den of Horror that I spent many days
in the 1930's due to Ear problems. Thanks again. Tony Barlow in
Hospital building is still there, but unused - there's a clinic
next to it, so the site is still being used for medical purposes.
If you want to know how it looked around fifty years ago, have a
look at LS Lowry's painting of the waiting hall, on display at the
Lowry Centre, Salford Quays.
I've just read through your Nighttime Manchester article. Great
stuff. Brings back happy memories from '91-'93 and Friday nights
out for a few pints with the lads from Manchester Polly. (now Manchester
Metropolitan University). Super atmospheric photos. I could almost
smell the place. Looking forward to part 2. David Barry Calgary,
my photos captured the atmosphere -sometimes seedy, sometimes glamorous,
of the city centre. More in Part Two to be uploaded shortly.
Eric Brennan -
you've done it again! The latest offering about Ancoats
is superb. As you know I was over there in late January-early February.
I took a couple of pictures from Piccadilly station approach. I
thought they looked familiar when I had them developed. Lo and behold
you have the same views on your massive creation!
the hell do you control the weather? I only had two clear, sunny,
days when I visited. I am waiting, with bated breath, for your next
effort. Ancoats was the area that obstructed our way into "town".
I only used to travel through it either on a fast 4 speed bike or
by bus. The feats of the Cobden Street Bottle Gang were very fearsome!
It was definitely a place to avoid, unless you were an inhabitant.
for your comments as ever! The weather has been quite variable recently,
but I made sure I was in fair ancoats on some sunny days
I saw your request for products etc. to review on Eyewitness Manchester.
Have you considered reviewing either of the UK Kosovo Refugee Relief
One contains work from ZuGang
from Manchester. Trevor Brown, a member of ZuGang - is currently
getting a large amount of television and press interest within Manchester
as part of the new School of Sound Recording course for DJ's.
Two has tracks from European
and CDP - also from Manchester. Both CD's were compiled by myself
(a Chorlton resident). To date, the project has raised over $120
for The British Red Cross and *every* sale of a CD gives another
$3 to charity.
excellent initiative, worthy of support - go on readers, have a
look - and a listen! Wishing you lots of luck - Reminds me - I'll
have to get along to Chorlton one of these days...
I wondered if you might consider publicising the following two links:
first is for the campaign for siting the new so-called "DIAMOND"
synchrotron where the current UK synchrotron is (at Daresbury near
Warrington) rather than in Oxfordshire.
second is a link to the heated response to Monday's decision by
the government to select the Oxfordshire site, much to the horror
of North West scientists, who are appalled that hundreds of these
high tech jobs, deparately needed in the North West are to be moved
to the already 'over-heated' South.
project is worth 175 million pounds initially, and its loss will
affect science in the North West for decades (luckily I'm not directly
I understand it, it appears that even the staff presently at the
Oxfordshire site don't support the move, nor do the majority of
the UK and international scientific community. However the majority
of those making the decisions are based in Oxford and London.
say no more.
Dr Curtis Dobson, Molecular Neurobiology Lab
Department of Optometry and Neuroscience, UMIST
Manchester, M60 1QD, UK
terrible that yet again, resources are spread unevenly across the
UK, and there's a bias against certain parts of the country based
on ignorance. I hope the decision is reversed and that the Daresbury
centre continues to do its essential scientific research work.
seems since the opening of the new Marks and spencers store there
hasn't been a lot of new news regarding the rebuilding of the City
Centre on any of the related website's. Please could you update
the news regarding the rebuilding of the City Centre.
try, based on my current knowledge, but please have a look at Euan
Kellie's excellent Rebuilding
Manchester website, which he is going to develop along lines
instance. Are the new owners of the Arndale Centre going to redevelop
the whole frontage of the Arndale centre, including the tower in
time for the Commonwealth Games or are they going to leave it as
tower was originally to be remodelled, but that plan appears to
have been dropped.
are they going to build the winter gardens and what form will it
Winter Gardens are part of the next stage of the redevelopment.
Cannon St will be covered over with glass and turned into an attractive
indoor space. There is a debate about whether the Winter Gardens
should be left open at night.
Market Street going to be redesigned?
Arndale exterior will be remodelled along Market St as well. Work
is currently in progress to remove the escalator to the former Voyagers
the latest news on the new Cathedral street development opposite
Marks and Spencers? When is it going to be built and what will it
new development, titled Shambles West, will commence shortly.
the latest news regarding Harvey Nics?
not sure, I think they are definitely planning a shop in Manchester.
the frontage of the Ramada Hotel going to redeveloped in time for
not aware that this part of the former Shambles Square development
is to be remodelled - it looks very ugly
many hotel's have been built and are going to be built in time for
hotel is planned for the site of Northcliffe House - Another is
planned for the corner of Portland St and Sackville St on the site
of the BT office building. Several smaller hotels have appeared
not far from the city centre - in Salford, the Campanile, for instance,
and the Comfort Inn, off Hyde Road, West Gorton. There are more,
I'm not sure exactly how many.
new retail shop's and restaurant's will be coming to Manchester
when the Printworks,Triangle, Great Northern warehouse and the G.MEX
arch development's open this year?
not sure of the exact names, but you can expect a range of well-known
chains. I'm personally looking forward to the IMAX cinema in the
the latest news on the other development's in the City Centre. Piccadilly
to be redeveloped, with a new entrance on Fairfield St and a new
be redeveloped as part of the renovation of the London Warehouse,
currently covered in scaffolding
land in front of Piccadilly Station where the Indian restaurant
not aware it's going to be built on
Council are to persist with their impractical and over-elaborate
plan for Piccadilly,
unless the Civic Society's 'village green' application is successful.
The building may look something like this visualisation I've made.
be reclad and renovated, in similar style to Portland Tower - they
also want to remove Bernard House, with the funny-shaped roof
street Coach station,
in the news - it should be redeveloped in time for the Games
three hotel developments on Portland Street,
are going ahead, as far as I know, including the one on the corner
of Portland St, below
Freetrade Hall Hotel,
new plan has been drawn up, keeping thee existing building separate
from the new one
Roco Hotel in Salford,
I don't know
be turned into executive flats - I'd like to have the one on the
top floor - only half a million quid, I'd now estimate
continue as it is, but a new proposal for tall flats has met with
some opposition - the derelict building on the Canal next to the
railway could be made into a nice building, but this hasn't been
redevelopment plan has already been announced - I'm not too keen
on it, especially the demolition of one of my favourite buildings,
about to commence
City Centre Park,
plan to remove part of the old roof, otherwise it will stay more
or less as it is
hold at the moment, there have been many objections to the design
Cheetham Hill Road development,
Gateway Centre was to have commenced, but I haven't seen much activity
on the site - I assume it's going ahead
redevelopment of Ancoats,
forward at a slow pace - see my Ancoats feature coming very shortly
- should be another Castlefield in 10 years or so - we hope!
2002 Commonwealth Games site,
has commenced on the stadium
Commonwealth Games Swimming Pool,
nearly finished and will open later in the year
City Centre Art Gallery,
in scaffolding it will re-open next year
Lowry centre and Shopping Development,
Lowry Centre is to open at the end of this month - watch out for
it! The shopping development will commence shortly
Snow ski World,
site has been cleared - I walked past there yesterday - construction
hasn't commenced yet.
etc? Are there any new development's which have not yet been announced?
Will they be ready in time for the games?
that I'm aware of, but I'm sure that plenty of new developments
will appear in time for the Games
are building's or vacant piece's of land I would like to see developed
before the games begin: The
Fire Station on London Road,
no proposals for this another of my favourite buildings
Car Park behind the BT building on Portland Street,
the site of the unique York House, demolished under the aegis of Manchester
City Council in 1975, despite protests from distinguished architects
from all over the world
Warehouse opposite the Malmaison hotel on London Road,
this I think you mean the London Warehouse - it's being converted
vacant land opposite Canal street which is currently a NCP Car Park.
sure this will be developed soon, though I'm not aware of any plans
Car Park opposite the Palace Theatre,
upmarket residential development is planned for this site
large piece of land opposite St Mary's Hospital,
shopping/leisure development is planned for here, I understand
vacant piece of land opposite Pizza Hut on Oxford Road.
of the former "Rotters" converted from the Gaumont Cinema
(I think), there is going to be a development there, the car park
has now been closed
there any plans to develop these site's or buildings before the
of them, yes
like to see Manchester City Council get together with the City Centre
Developers and come up with a plan to redevelop the whole of Oldham
excellent idea - have you seen my Oldham
the point on redeveloping the whole of the city Centre and especially
the Piccadilly Gardens area if there going to leave Oldham Street
the way it is?
much attention is lavished on some areas and other neglected - this
is a fault with Manchester City Council's development strategy
are many attractive buildings on Oldham Street which can be redeveloped
in to apartment's and shop's, why not create a Carnaby style Street
just off Piccadilly Gardens?
building has already been turned into flats by Urban Splash - Smithfield
Buildings (above) - it's nice. More could be renovated, I agree
you noticed all the empty shop's in the City Centre? Is this the
effect of the Trafford Centre or are Retailer's jockeying for positions
in the new City Centre?
have been many empty shops for many years - I'm not sure of the
economics, but some areas are run down e.g. Oldham St, and others
very prized, e.g. King St
sure like Manchester many other cities in the United Kingdom are
also going through major redevelopment's, It would be very interesting,
if not controversial if you could create a website comparing the
cities for Culture (Theatre/Museum's), Shopping (Fashion/Variety),
Restaurant's (Quality/Price), Entertainment (Bar's/Club's/Family),
Hotel's (Quality/price), Transport (Access/Frequency), Appearance
(Cleanliness/tidiness), etc, etc.
someone please give me a lot of money and I'll do it!
each city points for the different categories and then producing
a league table. The cities I would include are Edinburgh, Glasgow,
Belfast, Newcastle, Leeds, Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham,
Bristol, Cardiff. Do not include London.
Please wait until 2002 when the centre of Manchester has been redeveloped.
this will also give other cities the opportunity to complete their
Wishes. John Berta.09/03/2000.
lots of stuff there, but I've done my best to answer your questions
- as for a league table, how about this view on Birmingham, from
a reluctant Mancunian expat...
Subject: greetings from birmingham
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:17:41 -0000
Aidan - hello. Firstly, let it be said that I have enjoyed 'tuning-in'
to your eye witness in manchester web pages for over 2 years now.
an archive of excellent architecture / citynews information, it
has greatly helped me write my book on recent architecture of manchester.
book is due out in June and probably launched at CUBE in architecture
week. So cheers for all your effort and time / energy to create
your web pages, they have been great.
I work in Birmingham (England's 3rd city - not 2nd, I may add!)
and god what a horrible experience! I commute between Manchester
- Birmingham at the weekends, so tuning into your EWM slot keeps
me sane in the week.
only I could find (suitable) work in Manchester then I would not
have to live in brum. But sadly, as education is underfunded and
to a certain degree bankrupt - I have to go where the work is, and
sadly that is birmingham. If you are going to feature other cities
Aidan - for gods sake don't choose birmingham. Anyway, could you
keep us up to date with whats going on up their. David
me next week for the next Eyewitness update from... Birmingham -
No, only kidding, I have no plans to cover Birmingham! From what
I've heard, the centre of Birmingham has been redeveloped very well
- I've only visited very briefly, but driven past it on the M6/M42
many times. It's nice to hear you prefer Manchester. Good luck with
your book, and glad my pages have helped you.
Subject: Ex- Mancunian open L.S.Lowry Site!
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:28:26 -0600
you'd be interested with an Ex-Mancunian opening an L.S.Lowry site
on the web.
up in Droylsden (Somerset Rd) and attended St John the Evangelist
in Openshaw in the early 70's.
away in 1980 to California and eventually ended up living in a suburb
of Chicago some ten years later. I grew up with a great interest
of Lowry and when I eventually made a decent pay check, I decided
to set about getting as many prints of Lowry's work as possible.
thing was, I couldn't find any here in the US or from any other
sources in the UK. I eventually decided that many other people,
not just the Ex-Brits in the US may have that need, but even the
people at home in the UK. I eventually tracked down as many companies
in the UK willing to sell me prints and ship them out here for me
to offer for sale on the web.
month (Feb 2000) I opened www.lslowry.com and www.thelowry.co.uk
surprise the first 75% of my orders came from the North of England,
Manchester, Blackburn, Sunderland, York, etc. I was amazed, I thought
most of the orders and interest would come from here
the US. I am in the process of getting my banner swapped with other
sites in the UK, and expand even further.
that you'd find this interesting and may want to check out the site
and give me some feedback.
I've been a fan of your work for so very long and spend every Tuesday
evening catching up on the weekend's news in and around Manchester.
I especially like the photo's. I have the one you took a while back
of Daisy Nook. It brought back many memories of my childhood, Thank
I'm certain people will be interested - Lowry's paintings are fantastic
- I feel in a small way I'm following in his footsteps, using a
different medium in a different era. Glad you liked the Daisy Nook
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:57:35 +1100
From: Matt Roche
enjoyed your site mate.
an exiled Scouser living here in Melbourne Australia. Only been
here 30 years!
pictures were great of Liverpool. Also Manchester. My wife lived
there for a while.
I enjoyed reading about your V W campervan. We toured Australia
in a similar one in the seventies. Not quite as old as the one you
we didn't encounter any of the problems you had. Just thought I
would drop you a line and say I enjoyed your site.
If I may, I'd like to send your comments on the Liverpool site to
the Scousers forum on Merseyworld. I'm sure the people on there
would love to
read them. I was home last July and I have to agree with most you
is a great city - in many ways it has the edge on Manchester, for
example its superb waterfront - I wish I could spend more time there.
Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:51:54 -0500
From: David Charlton
Subject: Re: Mancunian Way Videoclip
Just took a look at the clip - it worked great on my computer. I'm
a native Mancunian who lives in Detroit now - your emails and photos
are a great way to stay in touch with home. Keep it up.
you liked it - some people have been having problems running it.
From: Colin J. Raven
Subject: Hello from New York
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:21:27 -0500
a longtime "exile" from Manchester having resided in NY
for the past 25 years.
been a regular visitor to manchesteronline, more so since the advent
of EWM. You photgraphs are stunning and make me acutely homesick
at times. Yeah, I think belonging to this mailing list makes sense.
Who knows? someday I may come home.
Colin J. Raven
VP Operations, DDF Lab, Inc.
loved New York while I was there, summer 1981 - when I took these
photos. Thanks for your message and keep visiting Eyewitness in
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