- Introduction by AidanEyewitness from his virtual airport office.
- When was the Liver Building completed?
- Where else can you see the Liver Birds?
- Where are the Three Graces?
- How tall is the Liver Building?
- Who designed the Liver Building?
- Who designed the Liver Birds?
- Which buildings in the USA does the Liver Building resemble?
- What building material is the Liver Building made of?
- What was this site before the Liver Building?
- Do the bell towers contain bells?
- When were the electronic chimes installed?
- How are today’s chimes produced?
- Why are the inner courtyard walls not original?
- How many clock faces are on the towers?
- How big are the clock faces compared to Big Ben?
- How are the Liver Building clocks driven?
- Why don’t the clock faces have numerals?
- Why are the clocks called ‘George Clocks’?
- One of the clock faces was used as a banqueting table. True or false?
- What listing does the Liver Building have? Grade 2 or Grade 1?
- What does each Liver Bird hold in his/her beak?
- Why is the building named ‘Liver’?
- What is the Liver Building used for today?
- When was the Liver Building cleaned and renovated?
- What are the names of the two Liver Birds?
- How tall and heavy are the Liver Birds and what metal are they made out of?
- When was the viewing terrace opened?
- Still and moving images taken from the viewing terrace
- Conclusion by AidanEyewitness
If you watch the video above and read the article below, you will learn a lot about this amazing building. There are still some questions that are unanswered, which I list at the bottom of the page. If you have any answers please leave a message. In honour of Carl Bernard Bartels, I have also produced a German-language version of the video. Many thanks for watching and please subscribe to my AidanEyewitness YouTube channel.
Hidden facts about the Liver Building and the Liver Birds
The Royal Liver Building is the most famous building in Liverpool and it is admired and loved by both local people and visitors. It’s located on the Pier Head, overlooking the River Mersey. Its two clock towers, and the two iconic Liver birds standing on top of them, can be seen from all over the city. It was constructed between 1908 and 1911 and is one of the so-called Three Graces. The other two are the Cunard Building, built 1914-1917, and the Port of Liverpool building, 1904-1907.
The Liver Building is one of the most familiar sights in Liverpool and you’ll find plenty of information about it in tourist guides and on websites. But certain facts about the Liver Building are shrouded in mystery, and there are some questions to which I’ve not found any clear answers. I will list them at the end.
1. The Liver Building is made out of reinforced concrete with a granite façade.
You’ll read that the Liver Building is made out of reinforced concrete. Its use of reinforced concrete for the structure of the building was ground-breaking at the time it was built. But it’s also important to know that the exterior is clad – or covered – in granite. The granite has a pale shade of brown, unlike the white Portland stone used on the Cunard and Port of Liverpool buildings. I’ve heard people say this colour is not very attractive but I don’t find that. It’s part of its unique character.
Book tickets for the Royal Liver 360 Tour
2. The Liver Building is built on one-third of a filled-in dock.
I used to wonder, why is it that on Liverpool’s Pier Head, there are three magnificent buildings, rectangular in floor plan, standing side by side? And then I discovered that all three were constructed on what used to be St George’s Dock. It was drained and the site was prepared for new buildings.
Water Street and Brunswick Street were extended across the former dock, dividing it into three. Three buildings then appeared where ships used to moor. And here’s another hidden fact: if you turned the clock back a few centuries, and looked from St Nicholas church, the Three Graces would be out in the river. The entire Pier Head and dock system is built on reclaimed land.
3. The inner courtyard walls have been covered with a modern glass façade.
In 2011, I visited the Liver Building to take photographs for the book ‘Liverpool Then and Now’, and I was shocked to discover that the interior facade has been covered in a glass skin similar to a 1960s office block. I didn’t take a photograph of it, as I didn’t want to spoil the image I had in my mind. Since its completion in 1911 the Liver Building, like most commercial buildings, has been altered and renovated, but I’m not sure when the glass wall was added. That’s another one of my questions at the end.
4. The riverside clock tower has three faces, the landside tower has only one.
I’ve been looking at the Liver Building for many years but had never quite fully noticed that the four clock faces are split between the two clock towers. On the west tower, there are three clock faces looking north, west and south, respectively.
On the east tower, there is only one clock face, looking east over the city centre. And here’s another hidden fact: all four clocks are controlled by the same mechanism. I don’t quite understand how that works, so that’s another question, which I’ve added to the list at the end.
5. The clock faces are bigger than those on the clock tower of the Palace of Westminster in London.
The clock faces of the Liver Building are bigger than the ones on the clock tower of the Houses of Parliament, completed in 1859. These are 23 feet or seven metres wide but the Liver Building clock faces are 25 feet wide or 7.6 m.
One information source stated that the clock on the front of Shell Mex House, further down the Thames, is bigger. But it’s not a proper clock face, just a section of the façade onto which clock hands and hour markers have been fixed. The Liver Building clock faces are proper clock faces made of metal and opaque glass, and they are recognised as the biggest in the UK.
6. It looks similar to some early skyscrapers in the United States.
The Liver Building is said to closely resemble the Allegheny Court House in Pittsburgh, built in 1884 and Adler & Sullivan’s Schiller Theatre in Chicago, built in 1891 and demolished in 1961.
I think it looks very similar to the Wrigley Building in Chicago, but that building dates from 1924. Could the Liver Building have influenced architecture on the other side of the Atlantic, just as Birkenhead Park influenced Central Park in New York?
7. The clock faces are the largest electronically driven clocks in the UK.
The Liver Building clocks are the biggest electronically driven clocks in the UK and this is a reminder that the building brings together both traditional and modern elements. The ornamented clock tower conforms to classic architectural principles you’ll see in world architecture, including Islamic architecture, but the mechanism of the clock is pure 20th century.
Liver Building clock face at dusk 22.09.1999
8. There are no bells inside the towers of the Liver Building.
There are bell towers on town halls and cathedrals including Liverpool Anglican Cathedral, and you can often hear them ringing. But inside the clock towers of the Liver Building, there are no bells. It made no sound at all until 1953 when a chiming mechanism was installed in memory of Royal Liver staff killed during two world wars.
The chimes were made using piano wires hit by hammers and the sound was amplified using a microphone, amplifier and speaker. This device gradually deteriorated and was out of operation for around four years. But in 2016, the chimes returned, thanks to the Cumbrian Clock Company, who are responsible for the maintenance of the clocks. They recorded the old chimes and saved the audio onto a hard drive. This sound is played throughout the day and the evening through a large speaker located under the cupola of the west tower.
It doesn’t sound quite like a real bell, but it’s better than no bell at all. I was intrigued to discover that when the building was under construction, there had been plans to put real bells in the tower and some space was set aside to accommodate them. But in the end, no bells were installed for fear that they would be too heavy for the new style of construction using reinforced concrete.
Composite image showing the tallest towers in NW England (05.05.2006)
9. The Liver Birds were designed by a German.
This fact was remained hidden for many many years. It was only in recent years that the identity of the person who created the metal cormorant-like birds was revealed. He was Carl Bernard Bartels, a German emigré artist born in Stuttgart. He came to live in England in 1887 after falling in love with the country. A competition was held to design and build the two birds that would be placed on the roof of the Liver Building, and he won.
A few years after the Liver Building was completed, the First World War began and there was a strong anti-German feeling. Carl Bernard Bartels was interned on the Isle of Man as an enemy alien and deported in 1918. He returned to England in the mid-twenties and spent the rest of his life there. Carl Bernard Bartels created Liverpool’s most famous pair of icons, but this fact was kept hidden until the late 20th century because he was German. Inside the Liver Building, there is now a plaque in his honour.
So, those are what I believe to be the surprising facts – at least, they surprised me when I first found out about them. Let’s continue with more generally known facts.
10. The Liver Building was designed by local architect Walter Aubrey Thomas
The Royal Liver Building was designed by Walter Aubrey Thomas, a Liverpool-based architect who was born in New Brighton, Cheshire in 1864. He designed many buildings in Liverpool city centre. I was interested to discover he designed a listed building on Lord Street which has distinctive stripes and an arch.
The Liver Building and the Tower Building 22.05.2005
I took a picture of the Liver Building from the corner of Water Street, zooming in on the clock tower. There’s another building to the right, a white building. That other building is the Tower Building, which pre-dates the Liver Building by several years. You can see it in old photos. It’s quite similar, with arches and those ‘curled’ motifs. In fact, the Tower Building was also designed by Walter Aubrey Thomas, something that is rarely mentioned, even though it stands directly opposite the Liver Building and could be seen as its precursor.
11. The Liver Building is a listed building, part of the UNESCO World Heritage site.
The Liver Building is a Grade 1 listed building (not Grade 1*, as one person mentioned. There is only Grade II*). A Grade 1 listed building is recognised as being of outstanding architectural merit and of national significance. That’s certainly true of the Liver Building.
It was also recognised as an important part of the UNESCO World Heritage site, the Liverpool Maritime Mercantile City. That supposedly put the area on a par with the Taj Mahal, the Pyramids and Angkor Wat. Controversially, UNESCO withdrew its status in July 2021 because officials were of the opinion that the site was under threat due to proposed construction projects nearby, including the new Everton FC stadium.
12. The clock faces have no numerals.
This may seem of little importance at first sight, but if we look at other historic clock towers, maybe ones that are slightly older, we find that most have numerals, either Arabic or Roman style, like the town halls of Birkenhead, Bradford, Rochdale and the Tower of Westminster (‘Big Ben’). With its plain clock faces, the Liver Building clocks look towards a more modern style.
13. The Liver Building clocks are called the George Clocks.
They’re called the George clocks because they were set in motion at 1.40 pm on Thursday, 22 June 1911, when George Frederick Ernest Albert Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, the Prince of Wales, officially became King George V. The clocks were made by Gent & Co of Leicester.
14. One of the clock faces was once used as a dinner table.
There is a photograph of one of the clock faces, which was turned into a huge banqueting table during the construction of the Liver Building. Sitting at the table are senior people from the Liver Assurance Group and Liverpool Corporation. The clock faces were later hauled up to the top of the building.
15. For many years it was the tallest building in Britain.
The Liver Building is said to be the UK’s first skyscraper, though at just 13 storeys, it doesn’t seem like much of a skyscraper. Already buildings in the United States were reaching much greater heights. But it remained the tallest building in Britain for many years. It’s 322 feet or 98.2 m to the top of the spires. It remains one of the tallest buildings in north-west England.
Composite images of the tallest towers in NW England 05.05.2006
16. Each of the two Liver Birds holds something in its beak, but what is it?
The birds on the Liver Building have a wingspan of 24 feet or 7.3 metres and are 18 feet 5.5 metres high. If you look closely or zoom in with a camera, you will see that each Liver Bird is carrying something in its beak. It looks like a small twig or branch of a tree. It’s got four leaves. In most descriptions, this is identified as a piece of laver, or seaweed. The name ‘laver’ is a pun on the name ‘Liverpool’.
However, I’ve also read that it’s an olive branch. And the French language Wikipedia page states that the Liver bird holds in its beak a branch of genêt, the French word for broom, a type of bush with a yellow flower that appears in spring. Genêt is said to be a reference to the Plantagenet dynasty, who ruled England in the middle ages. Is this true? That’s another question to add to my list at the end! The Liver bird is a mythical bird, said to date back to 1207, when King John founded the borough of Liverpool by royal charter and used a bird on the seal.
17. It is named after the Royal Liver Assurance Company, but they are no longer in the building.
The building is named after the Royal Liver Assurance Company which was a friendly society. Around the turn of the 20th century they decided to construct a new building for their 6000 staff. It remained the headquarters until Royal Liver Assurance merged with the Royal London Group in 2011. The group subsequently moved out of the building. In 2019 it’s reported to accommodate around 2000 staff working in a range of companies.
Luxembourg-based investment group, Corestate Capital, bought the building for £48 million in February 2017 along with Everton F.C. majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri. So, Liverpool’s most potent and best-loved symbol is a privately-owned office building. That’s an interesting fact. There must be very few other commercial office buildings with such an exalted status. Perhaps it’s symbolic, because Liverpool is a mercantile city whose wealth is built on business and trade (including, sadly, the slave trade).
18. The Liver Building was renovated in 2019 and also in the past.
In 2019, the Liver Building was renovated to bring it up to the standards required by today’s companies. Looking on the royalliverbuilding.com website, I see many changes have been carried out. There’s a photo of empty floor space with those semi-circular windows. But the building has not been preserved in its original state. That’s the way it is with working buildings, they have to be adapted for changing times, though seen from the outside, it looks as it did when it was first built.
Liverpool Liver Building and Pier Head with St Nicholas church
And now we move from facts to popular legends.
19. The birds are called Bella and Bertie and if they fly away, Liverpool will cease to exist.
I’ve read from many sources, that the birds are called Bella and Bertie, but who exactly called them that? We are told that if they break away from their shackles and fly away, that will be the end of Liverpool. This story sounds like it was inspired by the ravens of the Tower of London. It’s said that if they leave the tower, the kingdom and the Tower of London will fall.
The difference is that the ravens are real birds, whereas the Liver Birds are copper sculptures weighing several tons and they’re tied down with cables. The birds face in opposite directions. It’s said that if they were facing each other, they might mate and break their moorings, causing the downfall of the city. According to another account, Bella watches over the ships and their crews while Bertie watches over the city and its people.
A variant of this is that Bella is on the lookout for handsome sailors on the arriving ships, while Bertie is checking that the pubs are open. What must he have been thinking during the 2020 Coronavirus crisis! A typically Scouse piece of humour is that the Liver Birds flap their wings every time a virgin walks along the Pier Head.
Panoramic view of Liverpool from Royal Liver 360 – 22.06.2019
20. The views from the top of the Liver Building are fantastic!
There is no doubt that the views from the roof of the Liver Building are fantastic. When I wrote the previous version of this article in 2015, it wasn’t possible for the general public to enter the building and go up to the tower. Now it is! Read my review below to find out what I thought of the Royal Liver 360 visitor experience and why I was a little bit disappointed.
In 2019 Royal Liver 360 Tower Tours and Visitor Experience opened its doors. For the first time, visitors were able to go inside the building and ascend to the top of the tower. I did this in summer 2019 and I wasn’t disappointed, though I have one criticism! So here’s my quick review of the Royal Liver 360 tour and visit to the top of the building.
Liverpool City Centre seen from the top of the Liver Building-22.06.2019
I booked in advance on the website. The ticket cost £16. The journey to the top of the building starts in the basement. The entrance is to the right of the main entrance to the Liver Building. In the reception area, there is a ticket desk and an exhibition, which is worthy of a visit in itself. There’s an impressive wooden model of the Liver Building. On the display boards, there’s information about the history of the building with many photos.
Book tickets for the Royal Liver 360 Tour
Soon it was time to start the tour. Visitors are assigned into groups and led by a friendly guide. At this point, we notice that the health and safety procedures are rigorous. There is a briefing, warning of potential hazards and telling us what to do in an emergency. This is quite different from other older attractions.
I realise it’s for our safety but it does impinge a little on the experience. The guide counts some of us into the lift and we go up. We wait for the others and then proceed out onto a balcony below the south clock face. Here we get our first glimpse of the cityscape and of one of the Liver Birds – it’s Bertie, the one facing out over the city. We can’t see Bella, she stands hidden above the tower. Our guide provides information and plenty of humorous remarks.
Next, it’s time to go up the stairs and into the interior of the clock tower, with its clock faces on three sides. In this room high above Liverpool, they’ve created an auditorium with speakers and digital projectors. Soon the lights go down.
What follows is a state-of-the-art presentation on the history of Liverpool and the Liver Building from its construction at the beginning of the century, through two world wars and up to the present day. The visuals are good, including animated 3D Liver Birds as well as many still and moving archive images. The sound is immersive and very loud. We hear the foghorns of the ships, the bombs of WW2 and finally, the song ‘Ferry Cross the Mersey’ by Gerry and the Pacemakers. It presents Liverpool perfectly and truly expresses the pride people have in the city.
View north from the Liver Building roof 22.06.2019
Now, it’s time to go up to the top floor via a narrow staircase. Emerging into the daylight, we walk out onto the balconies and start to admire the panoramic views: the city centre to the east, the Pier Head, Albert Dock and River Mersey to the south, the view west across the river towards Birkenhead and the Welsh mountains and to the north and north-west, the docks, New Brighton and the Irish Sea. We are standing below the dome with Bella standing on top. We still can’t see her, but we can see Bertie on the other tower, standing with his back to us. He’s not being rude, he’s got an important job to do.
Many times I’ve looked across to the Liver Building from all parts of the city and from across the river. Now it is stunning to see the view in the other direction. I start to take photos and videos, moving around each balcony and back again. I’m about to start a video shot of the city when…
“The tour is finished now, can you make your way back down the stairs…”
And that’s my only criticism of the Royal Liver 360 tour. You are only allowed, I think it was around 10 to 15 minutes at the top before being asked to leave. I spent a whole evening on the Shard in London and a similar amount of time and spent a few hours at the top of the Rockefeller Center in New York.
Fifteen minutes at the top of the Liver Building just isn’t enough time. I realise there are space limitations as well as health and safety considerations, but I would pay extra to spend more time up here and I’m sure a lot of other people would too. Royal Liver 360 bosses, please take note!
A few minutes later I’m back down on the Pier Head again, looking up at the iconic clock tower and hoping for an opportunity to spend a longer period up there some time in the near future.
Blick nach oben auf die Fassade des Liver Building
Personal observations and reminiscences.
The Liver Building was begun in the same year my father was born, 1908. He was christened Bertie, presumably after the popular name of George, who became King in 1911.
I remember visiting the Pier Head with my mother in the 1960s and taking the ferry to Woodside. I was captivated by the Cunard Building and the Port of Liverpool building. They had just been cleaned and looked as if they were made out of icing sugar. They seemed to ‘sing’, I can’t quite explain it. At that time, all the buildings in Manchester were still covered in black soot from the factories. I can’t remember much about the Liver Building, except that there were rows of green Liverpool Corporation buses parked in front of it.
Another memory from the sixties is the opening credits of the Liver Birds tv series, starring Nerys Hughes and Polly James. The grimy Liver Building can be seen from the ferry. There is an iconic shot looking up at the glamorous Nerys Hughes standing on the back of a bus, with the tower of the Liver Building behind.
In recent years I’ve followed all the changes on the Pier Head, I’ve taken photos and video of many festivals, including the Giants, I took ‘now’ shot of the building for the book ‘Liverpool Then and Now’ and went inside to capture the view of where the Liverpool Overhead Railway used to be. That’s when I saw the glass interior wall for the first time.
I’ve done some drawings too, which I am featuring on this page.
I love the Liver Building, its design, its location, the Liver Birds that stand on top of it, and all the associations it has with the history of Liverpool. I will go on admiring it and taking photos of it, like every local person and every visitor to the city. I hope to find out even more hidden facts about the Liver Building, which I will add to this page.
- But I have some unanswered questions, some facts about the Liver Building that remain hidden, or at least not 100% clear. Can you provide any information?
- Who exactly named the Liver Birds Bella and Bertie?
- How are the four clocks, including one in a separate tower, controlled by one mechanism?
- Exactly what type of branch are the Liver Birds holding in their beaks?
- Which clock face was the one used as a dinner table?
- Since when clock tower had an amber coloured light? I seem to remember that in the past, the light was white. Was it?
- When was the earlier renovation carried out, during which the glass interior façade was added?
- In what year were the Three Graces first cleaned? Was it in 1968?
- What is the exact weight of each Liver Bird?
And here’s one extra fact: At around 11 pm on the evening of Friday 26 June, 2020, while crowds celebrated Liverpool FC’s Premier League win, someone threw a firework at the Liver Building and it started a fire on the front of the building. Mobile phone images show a blaze in front of the semi-circular window below the west tower. The fire was put out by Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service. Comment: Setting fire to Liverpool’s most iconic building is not the best way to celebrate Liverpool FC’s win.
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Hi, My Grandad once told me the Liver building was built on foundations of bales of hay or cotton. Is this true?
Thanks
It could be that they used hay or cotton as one of the materials to fill in the old St George’s Dock, on which the Liver Building and its two neighbours were built. I’ll keep an eye out for that information. Many thanks for your comment.
Hello
Very informative – Many thanks
Steve
Thanks very much indeed for your comment. I wanted to provide as much information as possible but also highlight the uncertainties surrounding some of the information. Thanks also for subscribing to my site.
Hi Aidan – thanks for your message.
Without taking too much of your time I’d appreciate some advice.
I currently live in France and am planning to return to Merseyside early next year. I’m a 60 year old retired fire officer and would love – as a part time interest – to become a guide at the Royal Liver Building.
If you can offer any guidance as to the required experience for the position and also the best way to apply it would be very much appreciated.
Apologies in advance if you think that this request is beyond your remit😀
Kind regards
Steve
To be a guide at the Royal Liver Building you would need to get in touch with Royal Liver 360, the visitor experience. They employ people to act as guides, leading visitors on the tour of the tower and rooftop viewing areas. To become an official tour guide for Liverpool – not just the Liver Building, you would ideally need to have Blue Badge status. You would need to do a course and take an exam. The course is held only from time to time. Sorry I can’t be more specific. Good luck anyhow. The Liver Building is one of the most remarkable and unique buildings in the world.
What was the building used for?
The Liver Building is an has always been an office building. First it housed the offices of the Liver Assurance. Today it’s a commercial office building with various companies, including the owner of Everton FC. That’s why some stupid person threw a firework at the balcony whilst they were celebrating the success of Liverpool FC.
When I was a child I remember that there was a news item showing the liver building clock turning backwards and a group of workers pointing to it. This would have been in the early 70’s it was on the 6 oclock news, I watched it because my dad was one of the workers who was working on the new mersey tunnel at that time. It was filmed from the birkenhead side of the mersey. I could never find footage of this. Was it for April fool’s?
This is intriguing. I have no recollection of that, though I used to watch the local news at that time. I showed your comment to two friends of mine from Liverpool. That would be a good question for the Liverpool Hidden History group on Facebook. Could it have been at the time that the clocks go back at the end of October?
I have a cine film from 1970 or 71 and the Liver building appears to be black. Someone has shown me a photo from 1975 and the building is its present colour. What year did the Liver building get cleaned? Does anybody know? As a child I always thought the Liver building and St Georges hall were black, It was quite a shock to find out they were not in the mid 70’s
I remember visiting Liverpool as a child – I think it was around 1968 and 1969 with my mother and I was astonished by the sight of the Port of Liverpool building. However I don’t remember the Liver Building having being cleaned at that time. Maybe it was later. The only way to find out for certain would be to do some picture research. Find photos of the Liver Building from around that time, with the date they were taken, and look to see when the exterior changes from smoke blackened to clean. It was definitely between the late sixties and early seventies.
I have just found 2 photos online from 1972-73 showing the Liver building with the upper parts covered for sand blasting so I guess that answers my original question. The clean up must have been done in 1972-1973
Great to have that information, many thanks for sharing!
Hi.
Interesting article, thanks!
I work in the Liver Building. The offices are very modern. Each floor (including the lift area) is decorated according to the design of the occupants.
In 2019 they rebuiilt the ground floor and basement. The plans are on the Council website (the planning application). There is a new cafe on the ground floor. The door onto the Strand was always sealed shut but you can get in – people think it’s the front door but the front door of all offices facing the river is on the river side.
There is a new gym in the basement, with a running track and boxing ring (for some obscure reason), though they have kept the safety deposit vault.
The cafe was due to open in November 2019. The contractors overran significantly, they underestimated how much of the concrete had to be removed. The new reception is at the end of the cafe, where new entry barriers for office workers have been installed. Unfortunately the work overran and it was due to open at the end of March – just after lockdown started. So the cafe hasn’t opened yet! It’s very nice, and has a bar.
There used to be a restaurant in the basement, ‘The Liver Lounge’. You went past it on the way to the lift for the tour, there was a glass door which staff used to be able to go through to get to the lift but they locked it when the tour started. It was very dingy with no windows but served good food, excellent home-made soups and some hot food though mostly people went for sandwiches. Sadly, the staff got made redundant or moved (I’m not sure which). Whilst the work was being done they got a company to run a pop-up sandwich shop in the atrium closest to the river, that company was going to run the new cafe but unfortunately they went bust during lockdown so the cafe is currently empty with no-one to run it. It’s a shame, it’s very modern – more like a lounge bar in a hotel. No doubt it will be expensive but I’m sure it will be packed once it re-opens. Tourists are forever trying to get into the Liver Building and now they’ll be able to for a cuppa or pint and a bite to eat.
It’s a very nice building to work in, I know the author isn’t a fan of the internal glass windows but it means all the offices have windows inside and out, so the offices are very light and airy.
The only annoying thing is that the lifts are they type where you press which floor you want to go to and it tells you to use a particular lift (called A-F). Unfortunately the touch panels don’t work very well, you press the floor you want to go to and as the day wears on the panels work less well and thinks you have pressed a different floor than the one you actually pressed.
Wow, you work in the Liver Building? I never expected to receive such a detailed description of the inner workings of the Liver Building from someone who familiar with the building on a daily basis. It is quite frankly fascinating. I’m very interested to hear about the effect of the glass windows. Of course, the architectural purist in me wants the building to be exactly the same as it was in 1911 but that wouldn’t be a very good idea, as the Liver building is a working office building. If it’s possible for visitors to go inside and east at the cafe, that would be great. Thanks again for one of the best and most detailed comments I’ve received!
Sometimes on tv, images from outside the Liver building seem to show one clock face displaying a different time to the others. Is this an optical illusion or maybe just my imagination?
That’s interesting – occasionally when they are doing repair work on the clocks, it could be that one or more of the clocks is showing the wrong time. All four clocks are electronically controlled and should show exactly the same time. Maybe from different angles, the minute hand might appear to point to a slightly different point on the clock face. I will look closely the next time I’m passing by the Liver Building. Many thanks for your comment.
Thank you for the detailed history. My great-grandfather is William Field who was the company director at the time of the building’s design and construction. I have been told that he gave the speech convincing other board members of the feasibility of creating a skyscraper for the company. His name is on a plaque to the entrance of the building.
That’s very interesting – your great-grandfather was the company director. Sounds like he was a visionary – the Liver Building was the first skyscraper in the UK, a groundbreaking building in every respect. I understand that some people thought the building would collapse as the reinforced concrete wasn’t strong enough to support such a tall building, but they were wrong. Many thanks for this fascinating piece of information.
I wish the clock had real bells. As bells were initially intended, I assume the clock mechanism was designed with a strike and chime mechanism. Presumably, this is what the piano wire chimes installed in the 50s ran on. Maybe someday we could fundraise for some. You’d need five for the Westminster chimes (four quarter bells and the hour bell). These could include modern elements such as the bell hammers being operated by electrical impulse rather than gearwork. Another smart feature could be to allow the hammers to strike the bells at a variable speed setting to control volume. This could be linked to a sensor that monitors outside ambient sound levels so the bells are a bit softer during quieter periods. I believe the bells were intended for the west tower. Presumably, the belfry for the east tower was merely for architectural symmetry. Perhaps a carilion could be installed in the east tower.
One thing you didn’t mention was the internal illumination of the clock dials. The architectural lighting has recently been upgraded, including the lighting of the dials. I think this is LED and the colour scheme can be programmed to display different colours and patterns. That said, the default for the dials seems to be a neutral white. However, until recently, the dials were illuminated in a murky orange colour. I understand that this was low pressure sodium lighting; the very same type of lamp as that used in the older style streetlights that are now being phased out. I’m pretty sure this was unique in the world for a turret clock. I’ve personally never came across any others that appear to be lit with LPS. The low pressure sodium lamp was developed in the 1930s and I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that the LPS lighting for the dials was put in in the same decade. I’m assuming before that, the dials were illuminated with standard incandescent lamps, which would’ve gave off a softwhite colour but I’ve never been able to find any information on it.
Thanks very much indeed for this very detailed response. I think it would be fantastic for the Liver Building to have real bells, and maybe as you say housed in the east tower as the west tower is now part of the visitor experience. The electronically generated bell sound just isn’t as good as the sound of real bells. It really was the original intention to install real bells so why not now? I make a brief mention of the colour of the light towards the end, but I am going to add an extra piece of information and a photograph of the new colour provided by the LED lights. Thanks again for your response!
Each dial has its own mechanism: the so-called Waiting Train movement, by Gent of Leicester. This electric mechanism moves the hands through the space of half a minute in about 27 seconds, then stops and waits for an electric pulse from a central Master Clock, then re-starts.
This movement is used in other clocks, but a smaller version and operating more than one dial.
That’s fascinating – so the clock is driven by a pulse, which moves the hand around just under 30 seconds, then another pulse triggers it to move further, and so on. You have answered my question perfectly! Many thanks for posting!
Hi Aidan
I live in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire but grew up in Manchester so love all things northern.
The liver birds were built here in Bromsgrove at the Bromsgrove Guild long since disbanded. We have a small museum and there is information and images of the Liver Birds under construction. The Guild also built Buckingham Palace gates.
Many thanks for that information. I would be very interested in seeing that museum some time. I’ll see if there is any info online. Many thanks!
Thanks, a great source of information. I’m 7th generation Liverpudlian (at least) and felt it was time I remembered more about my home city so have been picking on an element and mugging up on it. Liver Building topped the list today. Some observations:
re your item 20, I think it was possible for the general public to tour the building earlier than you mention. In September 2014 my wife and I joined a tour of the building. My recollection was that there were a limited number of tours each year and we were fortunate to get a couple of places.
In item 15 you mention that it has 13 storeys. According to an information panel inside the building, there were “17 floors, including 6 in each tower”.
On the point of it being built on cotton bales which I’ve seen mentioned, this seems unlikely: my guess is that it was a reference to it being built on (the money generated from) cotton and it got taken literally over time. Not impossible though.
Final point, I took my mum to the Pier Head a few years ago when she was 97 and she mentioned, to my surprise, that she worked on the 9th floor of the Liver Building during the war. In 1940 she was working for Evans Sons Lescher and Webb in Hanover Street when the offices were bombed on the night of 21/22 December 1940 and destroyed. The staff was relocated to the Liver Building.
Many thanks for your very interesting comments. I think the figure of 13 storeys must be the main building, not including the towers. I always try to double-check my information but sometimes I get things wrong or fail to mention something. That’s a fascinating story from your mother. It’s incredible to hear first-hand accounts of the war. Yes, you’re right, it was possible to visit the building – I did when I took the photo of the Carl Bernard Bartels plaque. I think I had in my head a permanent visitor facility rather than the possibility of going in with a tour guide. Many thanks for your feedback!
I was born and grew up in Liverpool, now living in NYC. But Liverpool is my home.
I’m not bothered by the electronic chime sounds of the clock although they do seem a little flat. I think it would be interesting to add, on occasion, different tones, electronic musical sounds to designate the hour. Along with that, as it is the 21st-century, it would be great to have LED Lighting showing off the towers, the clocks, those great features of Liverpool, (ie Empire State Bld)
I know New York very well and I’ve seen the coloured lighting on the Empire State Building – it looks fantastic – and by the way, my dad was able to remember it being built! – Anyhow, they do have coloured floodlighting on all three of the buildings on the Pier Head, especially during festivals. The chimes do ring on the hour and every quarter of an hour but it’s just not quite like the bells on either of the cathedrals! Many thanks for your comment.
HI AIDAN
Always
I knew a few points interested in the Liver for many years and your info is brill most impressed
and knew a few facts about it. I used to cause murder over it. I used to ask people including taxi drivers
what different people knew about it? I used to ask 3 different questions, how many clock faces are there and which way they face?
Not many got that right 2 How many clock faces are there? again not many got that 3 What are the numerals on the faces? Again most said Roman??
I used to ask these questions around pubs etc as I said before caused riots ?? But was great fun
I notice you don’t mention there was an old hulk in George Dock it was a semi hospital and a home for the homeless of Liverpool There is a picture of it somewhere? Imagine the tools the hospital used then. Oh my god.
If there was a pub quiz about the Liver Building I think I would get a fairly high score but I didn’t know about the old hulk in George’s Dock. There was great poverty in Liverpool in the past, there still is today but not as bad as then. Hospitals have improved too. I’d like to see more photos of St George’s Dock before it was filled in. Many thanks for your comment and positive feedback!
Hello Aidan, many thanks for your very interesting article. I started working life as a Telegraph boy in Liverpool in the early ’60s. I used to be in and out of the Royal Liver Building delivering telegrams to shipping companies. I heard that during the 2nd World war, there used to be many floors below ground level in the Royal Liver Buildings where there was a war office. Is that correct, please?
In later life, I transfered within the G.P.O. from Postal to Telephones. I ended up being an Exchange Planning Officer for Liverpool, working from the 6th floor of the building. I watched the Isle of Man Steam Packet boats come in and go out without me on it as I lived in the Isle of Man in those days, and still do, I commuted weekly between Liverpool and the Island for 5 years. I am thankful of the memories of the Royal Liver Buildings, thank you in helping to reminisce upon my work, friends and colleagues within British Telecom, as it became known.
Many thanks for your kind message. I’m not sure about floors below ground level or if the war office was located there. There is a museum not far from the Liver Building, the Western Approaches Museum, 1-3 Rumford Street. It is based around the actual bunker where the war office was located during World War 2. I think people may have got that and the Liver Building mixed up. That must have been a great view from the 6th floor. The Isle of Man ferry still arrives and departs from there, though it looks different today. Thanks again for getting in touch!
We have a family story that a grandfather was a caretaker and lived in the top flat. Where would I find out if this is true or myth? Possibly Abbott or Mawdsley. I’ve tried searching but not found any information.
It can be very difficult to find information like that, particularly if nothing was written down about him and kept. I would suggest joining a historical group like Liverpool Hidden Histories on Facebook. If you find out, please let me know. Many thanks for contacting and good luck!
I have an old photo/print of the Liver building without the birds on top. One can see iron scaffolds around the top where they are going to be positioned. There are old boats in the river. Do you think it could be worth money?
It depends on the condition of the photograph. If it is well-preserved and in a frame, then it might be worth something. To be worth a lot it would need to have been taken by a well-known photographer or have some other rarity value.
You could join a Liverpool history of old photos group on Facebook and see if their members can advise. Many thanks for contacting.
I think I once read that it was Dalbeattie stone that was used to build the Liver Building. Does anyone know if this is correct? 2 years ago I met the great-grandsons of Carl Bernard Bartles at an event on the Isle of Man. Carl was an internee at Knockaloe, my great grandfather was a guard. He was from Crosby.
Dalbeattie stone? I’ve not heard about that. It is not mentioned in the Wikipedia page about the Liver Building, I’ll take a look. Your great grandfather was a guard at the internet camp? That’s fascinating. I wonder what experience Carl Bernard Bartels had while he was there. That’s a fascinating contribution, many thanks for your comment!
Hello, very informative one question: I have a picture where the Liver birds are not there, just scaffolding and wooden planks. I presume they were taken down during WW2 ?? It would be interesting to know, thank you.
I am pretty certain the Liver Birds were not taken down during WW2. I think the photograph was taken around the time the Liver Birds were being put in place during the final stages of the construction of the building in 1911. I think it was quite a feat to hoist them up to the top of the building, as well as transport them by road from Bromsgrove, where they were made. Many thanks for your question.
My dad was a steeplejack on the Liver building in the late 1950-60’s. I remember him telling me that a 16-year-old apprentice was able to climb inside the birds to clean them. Val Cookson
That’s very interesting! Is it still possible to climb into the birds? Not sure if it would be necessary to clean the inside! That’s a great story anyhow, I love hearing stuff like that! Many thanks for your comment!
You’re wrong when you say that it was in 2019 with the Royal Liver 360 Tower Tours and Visitor Experience, that visitors were able to go inside the building and ascend to the top of the tower for the first time, as it was previously open to the public during Heritage Open Days, which have been running during September each year since 1994, and it was on one of those tours in 2006 that I toured the Liver Building & ascended the Tower to the very highest level, which I believe is even higher than the latest tour, as we were allowed up the spiral staircase to the next floor.
Either way, it is definitely an experience not to be missed.
Well what I meant to say was ‘not normally’, as the whole point of Heritage Open Days is that you gain access to buildings that are not normally open to the public, but it’s a fair point. So you were allowed to go right up to the very top, that would be into the top section right under the Liver Birds. I’m quite envious! Anyway, many thanks for your comment. I hope to visit the top of the Liver Building again soon and would like to be able to stay longer than 10 minutes!
Hi Again
My Grandfather was a stonemason born in Dalbeattie. He came to Liverpool to work, building the Liver Building. This is how he met my grandmother, they married in 1912, one year after the building was completed.
I have tried to find out how I can get a list of the men who contributed in building the Liver Building, to no avail. I would love to find something with his name on for my future descendants.
Would you have any idea if and how I may be able to source?
Thanks
That’s a fascinating story and great to think a relative of yours helped to build the Liver Building. I don’t know if or where that information was listed. All I can suggest is to look for Liverpool history groups on Facebook, join and then place the question. I’m sure someone out there can help with this. Many thanks for sending your comment.
I was told as a child that my great grandad fell from one of the clock faces whilst, I believe, cleaning it. Do you think this could be real or maybe it’s just manufactured family history as the truth is too boring? My mum was born in 1939 and it would have been her grandad.
Many thanks for your comment on my web page. He fell off whilst cleaning the clock. That sounds like it could be a tall story and yet there may be some truth in it. An incident like that might have been reported in the local press, in the Liverpool Echo, but if you don’t have an idea of the date it could be like searching for a needle in a haystack. I’d suggest perhaps joining one of the Liverpool history groups on Facebook and asking people there, or alternatively, go to Liverpool Central Library and enquire with the staff. You could try looking at old copies of the Liverpool Echo and other sources, but it could be a long search!